Quick Tips for Meeting Women #7: Club Game

In the boot camp you're doing approach, after approach, after approach. That has the specific purpose of developing the skills of opening and running a set.

However, that's usually not the ideal way to actually sarge a club. The ideal way, is to meet and mingle.

That means bouncing among sets, starting with the easiest opens, while keeping your eyes out for the one or two or three girls that you're really keen on.

In practice that means that you're running attraction with the girls, kinoing playfully, and just having fun and laughing. No isolation. Maybe a bit of qualification, but not enough for them to think that you're actually interested in them. You can start sexualizing early in this case(sexually qualifying her), since you're not actually interested which makes you fun and sexy.

Also, even though the girl isn't someone you'd want to be with seriously, she may be down to fuck you either that night or another time because she can tell from the way that you interact with her that you will deliver the goods.

The main thing is to eject from sets earlier rather than pushing them because you want to make sure you don't get blown out by any of the sets that you're really just using as warm-up and social proofing. Eject after BT Spikes, and then come back later while you're waiting it out.

Almost invariably, there will come a time in the night where it will be easy to open the sets you were targeting. It will be right there, begging to be opened(meaning that you'd be an idiot not to open in that situation).

Then that's when you unleash the full power of your game.

Comments

[The Optimist]

Hey RedpoleQ,

This is an interesting post! Judging from bootcamp experience and guys I used to roll with who haven't taken the BC (probably not the best guage of success!), I assumed the general framework of club game in our "model" was about pushing each set as far as it could go from the first approach... no takeaways or any of that stuff... just going, going, going, and closing. This is a pretty big paradigm shift for me and I trust you enough to take your word for it, though I'd like to experiment a bit as well.

What are your thoughts for more "wild" venues like Atom, Camelot, or even Ageha? Do the same rules apply if you might not be able to find the girls once you eject?

That said, I love the idea and will put this into practice the next time an opportunity to hit a club arises. Thank you for the fresh idea!

[RedpoleQ]

It really depends on what your goals are and how often you go out. If you're going out regularly, you'll meet the same people over and over again.

And usually the top quality are regulars or know the regulars. That means that you're shooting yourself in the foot if you push it until you get blown out unless you've got the odds tipped in your favor as much as possible.

One of the reasons for training you in boot camp the way we did is because your idea pre-boot camp of what it meant to get blown out and the reality of what getting blown-out mean are totally different, and I'm sure you can vouch for that.

Consider the super $$$ girl in the white dress from Saturday day game...yeah, I know it hurts, but consider it anyway.

So we have to get you to push your boundaries so you can develop the proper calibration to run this. We have to eliminate the curse of Premature EJECULATION, where you eject from a set because you're feeling uncomfortable rather than because it's actually going south.

Remember that in any club, there will be 2-3 girls that you're really gunning for. And with these girls when you have the chance to strike, you will strike, and strike hard. With these girls you will push it having lined up everything so that all odds are in your favor.

As for more "wild" venues.

Atom and Ageha are a bit different. Atom has such a shitty layout, you might as well just find a girl and push it because you probably won't be able to find her again anyway, though once again if you go there often enough a lot of the girls are regulars.

In Ageha, I don't think they have regulars because it's based around the event and a lot of girls come from out of the way, so once again, even if you're a regular the only social proof you're likely to build up is if you know the staff there or have DJ/VIP access.

Camelot is a much more mingle friendly environment and you'll remember how many times we re-ran into girls we met previously. This is the ideal environment for running the kind of game I'm talking about in this post.

[The Optimist]

Very informative! I have to say that I don't have the kind of field experience that I wish I did to back up some of the ideas you're saying with some solid understanding on my part, so I won't put up false pretenses otherwise--but the notion of the top quality girls at the club being regulars struck an "aha" nerve in me.

I don't want to get too personal so as to keep this information beneficial for other guys who check out your blog, but you once explained to me the benefits of going out alone to build new social circles. The idea seemed quite scary at first, but the allure of meeting new people (based largely on the pressure that it'd be no fun to stand by oneself, but motivation is besides the point) was a delightful challenge. Your idea of mingling more than pushing things to the limit each time seems to be a wonderful framework to best suit a goal of BOTH making new friends and getting with more girls--I can't see nearly as much resistance coming from a girl who I try to pull out of a club in a situation where I spoke to her several times intermittently throughout the night versus where I pushed my limits and tried to bounce within a half hour.

That said, there's still LOTS of field time I need to work on with pushing things as far as they can go, as fast as I can, which is a big post-BC goal I have. The girl in the white dress embodied for me a major turning point in the way I viewed rejection; opening and reopening numerous times after ejecting on a high note (see: empty handed) was getting me absolutely NOWHERE and to really break through the mental blocks I had surrounding rejection, pushing harder was the perfect drug. I feel I got a lot out of my bootcamp in large part because of numerous re-opening experiences like these, and because of the changes that took place there I continue to feel less fragile or out of control and more empowered, optimistic about the future, and worthy of beautiful girls every single day.

I'm glad you remember those sets from my specific bootcamp in such detail--it's exactly what came to mind and I understand the reasoning behind that process a lot more now. I guess this post would be more advanced than most of the stuff a guy finds about game on the net, in books, and in videos, but at the end of the day that information is exactly what makes PickUp Asia gold.

Thank you for the in-depth response!

[RedpoleQ]

Feel free to continue this discussion on PickUp Asia +PLUS+ if you've got some additional questions, I think it could benefit all of the Approach Mastery boot camp alumni.